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Nordic
30th June 2009, 07:58 PM
For those who don't follow the extremely well written blog by the owners of Butterfly, here is a short excerpt from their latest installment. (http://butterflyandbarnacle.wordpress.com/)
Quote: This week alone we’ve cured five leaks, numerous patches of veneer water wicking, the galley fridge saltwater supply problem and, as mentioned last post – got the Mastervolt Inverter remote switch working properly again. One persistent leak that has proved frustratingly hard to source, let alone cure – and which has driven me nuts with the dank smell it generates throughout one hull – is, as of today, 11.30 am, Thursday 25th June2009, now officially off that TBF List. Hallelujah and praises be! But then perhaps only another boat owner would understand how curing an elusive, persistent leak, properly and permanently, makes the sun shine brighter and the heart sing.
And the great thing is, as we re-seal, re-fit and re-plumb – and apply sealant and/or gaskets where originally there was neither (was it ignorance or laziness, AfricanCats?) – so little by little, Butterfly is coming into her own.
But hey, that’s not to get cocky – Unquote.
It doesn't sound like the Fastcat company are competent, nor offering any kind of after sales service, - what a surprise?
I wonder if the company owner has the "cojones" to answer here, or does he think that lying low is the best tactic in resolving issues by his incompetent boatyard?
Alan
ireaney
1st July 2009, 05:42 PM
The more I read the less I am getting surprised.:(
I understand to a point, those that have commissioned a build over 12 months ago and have handed over good cash as part of the deal, but any one who has placed an order within the last 8 to 10 months if they have read the goings on, must be mad, but unfortunately these people may have not seen the posts he has made and then those people questioing his integrity and getting lies as his response.
People and builders like this give the industry a bad name and tar good ethical builders with the same brush, it is a real shame.:(
They should be named and shamed.:mad: and the good ones put on a pedestal :)
jono
2nd July 2009, 04:12 AM
The owners of Butterfly and Barnacle continue with their experience of their (http://butterflyandbarnacle.wordpress.com/), Fastcat RIB.
Quote: the rib is out of commission (again) – if you drop in here regularly, you already know about the problems trying to even paddle the thing. In short, we’re boatbound. Which is another reason to hole up in a marina for a while so we can go about our shore-based business without relying on water taxis.- Unquote:
Fastcat treats the public like mushrooms... jono
jono
2nd July 2009, 05:04 AM
Quoted by a Mark on a forum over there, this treasure:
If my brains fell out and I decided to buy a cat I would certainly look very closely at one...He's a mono man, giving critic on a 44'Lagoon
Then we get the SuperHero replying with his unbiased critic:
Hallo Dirk , they are extremely slow , have a small weight to sail area ratio but are strong build and good cruisers if you have time on your hands.
Greetings
Gideon
Gee, and they give and they give licences out in cereal packets...jono
ireaney
6th July 2009, 07:04 PM
As we all know I have been banned from CF as has the boss, but it does not stop me reading all the bullshit as and when it is posted there, especially the one in the Vendors Forum about the New Fastcat 455 (been going sometime I hasten to add) where if you read Butterfly and Barnacles blog http://butterflyandbarnacle.wordpress.com/ you will see where Greetings is implying that the faults are down to Karen and Dick.:mad:
Where does this guy get all his front from, I find it demeaning and belittling to people of not only Karen and Dick's intelligence but also everyone else apart from a few gullible people (I mean those placed within the last 6 months)who may still place orders for his boats, he reckons he has orders for 2 very, very light weight 605's hmmmmmmmmm (not only hmmmm ing about the orders but also the weight ;), I wonder, more like 2 enquiries :rolleyes:
IMO the guy is an insult to the world of boat builders, why can't he be honest and admit faults and rectify them, at least he would get some credibilty for that, because no one is perfect.:(
By the way I keep clicking on his advert on CF, I assume this is a free link for him ;)
imagine2frolic
6th July 2009, 07:45 PM
There are vendors of snake oil in every profession:eek::D......i2f
jono
10th July 2009, 01:20 PM
I'm getting a little nervous, his all too quiet!!::) what's gunn'a happen next, the 605 'slowpussie' is extended to 655, maybe?:D:D...jono
ireaney
13th July 2009, 07:55 PM
Jono
Keep up the good work on ;)
Well all poor old Dick and Karen, more crap workmanship :( http://butterflyandbarnacle.wordpress.com/ , what else will they find.:eek:
I don't know them never met or spoken to them, but I do feel for them, hopefully they will eventually sort out all the inadequacies made by African Cats and be able to enjoy their boat. :)
imagine2frolic
13th July 2009, 08:48 PM
This couple are first class. I feel bad for them....FASTCAT = AS THE PROPERLLER TURNS...::).......i2f
jono
14th July 2009, 11:57 AM
Ian, I really miss you and jelly, I just got to the 'not nice place' and...gee it's not the same mate, still i2f there with the rest of the gang.:o...jono
fastcat=now you see it, now you don't, now you see it....
Aram Vos
3rd September 2010, 04:29 PM
Dear all,
Our law firm in Amsterdam represents a couple with a EUR 25,000 claim against African Cats for a non-refunded deposit made as an option payment for the potential purchase of African Cats' multi hull named "Out of Africa" (built in 2002 by St. Francis Marine, type St. Francis Fastcat 48, HIN number ZA-XGF48004L203).
Reason why my clients decided not to buy this boat and reclaim their option payment was that, although the boat was presented by Gideon Goudsmit as being "as new", a surveyor instructed by buyers found numerous serious defects not disclosed by Goudsmit (in short: she turned out to be in a bad shape according to surveyor). Clients therefore demanded their option payment back, which Goudsmit refused thereby stating that - despite the defects - clients had already bought the boat and had waived their right to cancel. Clients state that both statements are false: (i) they never entered into a sales contract; and (ii) they never waived any right to walk away and always made it a condition that the boat should pass a survey before they would buy her. Goudsmit now just flat out denies everything and the African Cats bank account we attached was deeply in the red.
Clients commenced Court proceedings against African Cats before the Court of Amsterdam to get their option payment back. In order to substantiate their statements clients would appreciate if there is anybody on this forum who wants to step forward and inform me of similar experiences with African Cats/Goudsmit and/or who has information on the history of the multi hull "Out of Africa" (accidents, hidden defects, buyers that walked away etc.) and/or who has a financial claim against African Cats and wants to join in the proceedings now pending before the Court of Amsterdam.
Please e-mail me at vos@wvcv.nl or call at +31 20 524 52 45 if you have any usefull information for my clients. Thanks and have a good weekend.
Kind regards,
Aram Vos
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