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  1. #61
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    Default Re: MC30

    Quote Originally Posted by dmmbruce View Post
    ............remove the bottom bolt on the mast tabernacle and slacken the pivot bolt.
    Mike
    Ah, there lies the trouble. You need a tabernacle at the mast step for this type of thing. A standard mast and step is not so easy to lay down this way. First you need to lift the mast off the step some and then it will try to rotate on you as you lower it. If the bottom of the mast moves off the step it is going to take off and do some major damage to boat or crew.

    John
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkd View Post
    Ah, there lies the trouble. You need a tabernacle at the mast step for this type of thing. A standard mast and step is not so easy to lay down this way. First you need to lift the mast off the step some and then it will try to rotate on you as you lower it. If the bottom of the mast moves off the step it is going to take off and do some major damage to boat or crew.

    John

    Yes, if that is your setup. Also, from Yoga's post he implies that you will be motoring all the way up the canals. I had expected you to sail where possible.

    Overall therefore, the A-frame technique is pretty useless for you. Still worth knowing about though.

    Incidentally, the A-frames were called wishbones when the legs were curved so they fitted to the sides of the fore-deck on Dutch boats. They used to sit just inside the gunwhale, permanently rigged, ready to be swung up into use at the next bridge.

    Anyway, you are still going to do it with no major problems and you should thoroughly enjoy your initial voyage back to your home base.

    Mike
    Nothing works on an old boat, except the skipper.

  3. #63
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    Yes. Many low bridges along the Erie canal, and many locks.
    I will put the mast back up when I get to Lake Erie.

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    Hi Jeff

    What about getting Maine to put a webcam up above your boat so you can sit at your desk watching the boat being built when you want to?

    Cheers
    Paul

  5. #65
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    Paul,
    Webcam would be great! Why not?
    I even have my own webcam I use for cyber*** which I could set up at the factory.
    I will see what they say.

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    Maybe you can post a link to both, actually on second thoughts maybe rather just the boat.

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    I think you have got all our minds boggling!

    Mike
    Nothing works on an old boat, except the skipper.

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    Default Re: MC30 -- Erie Canal

    Quote Originally Posted by tyrntlzrdking View Post
    Yes. Many low bridges along the Erie canal, and many locks.
    I will put the mast back up when I get to Lake Erie.
    I am sure it has been done many times before. I believe I read on the yahoo Lagoon owners groups there was someone who took delivery of a new Lagoon 380 in New York Harbor/New Jersey, sailed up the Hudson and had the mast stepped prior to entering the Erie Canal and had it put back up in Buffalo, though I don't know where. He took the L380 to Lake Michigan where he was going to charter it to help pay for it.

    It should be a very interesting trip. I drive along parts of the Erie Canal on the NYS Thruway when going to visit the in-laws in Buffalo. There isn't really any open water sailing anyway, so stepping the mast is nothing but an inconvenience and additional cost--you aren't missing any sailing. I would also like to make the trip by boat some day.

    Congratulations on your retirement and the new boat. Retirement AND having a new boat in build are certainly exciting. Good luck.

    Marshall
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    A few pictures of #60 in begining stages.





    Mold is coated with Chemlease to aid in the removal of the part when lamination is complete.



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    Progress...














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    Hey Jeff

    Congratulations the build starts!, keep the pictures coming!

    Cheers
    Paul

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    Congrats on the boat. I'm drooling.
    Quote Originally Posted by tyrntlzrdking View Post
    There is a way.
    Need to head south down the Atlantic coast to the Hudson river.
    Hudson river to Erie Canal, into and across Lake Erie, up the Detroit river, into Lake St. Clair, up the Saint Clair river to home in Saint Clair Michigan.
    My God! your practically Canadian
    I agree it will be an enormous distance and thru many locks under bridges as low as 15 feet.
    Like I said, should be an adventure.
    Hope I make it.
    Is it much quicker than going around Nova Scottia, or just warmer?

  13. #73
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    Thanks all.

    Autodafe,
    Saint Clair is across the River from Canada, but I am still a long way from being Canadian.

    The Saint Lawrence River is an optional route home, but it is a much longer trip, and much colder/foggy. May be iceburgs way up there as well.

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    Jeff,

    Do you follow the blog for "Zero to Cruising"? They have just gone south along the Erie Canal/Hudson River (they are still in the river) and have done a nice job documenting their trip so far.

    Fair Winds,
    Mike

  15. #75
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    Mike,

    Thanks for the link to zero to cruising. I had not followed it for a while.
    Lots of good info for my future Erie canal experience.
    I almost bought their boat before they snatched it up.
    Funds were not yet available.
    She is very fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrntlzrdking View Post
    Mike,

    Thanks for the link to zero to cruising. I had not followed it for a while.
    Lots of good info for my future Erie canal experience.
    I almost bought their boat before they snatched it up.
    Funds were not yet available.
    She is very fit.
    Huh...I thought that was a virus on my computer, guess you got it too?

    Fair Winds,
    Mike

  17. #77
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    First cored section of hull...


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    Default Re: MC30

    Great. They make fast progress. How thick is the core?
    Nothing works on an old boat, except the skipper.

  19. #79
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    It is the new "M" CoreCell foam 1/2" thick and vacuum-bagged in place with resin on the foam and Core-Bond Putty against the laminations.
    The outside laminate is generally 3/16" thick and the inside skin is roughly 1/8" thick. Extra laminations are added in areas of higher stresses and loads both inside and out. The keel outside skin is close to 5/16" thick.

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    Hi Jeff, It might be worthwhile to ask for specific photo's where there should be solid sections, eg screecher attachement points, tracks, winches, cleats, blocks, sidestay attachment etc. That way you know exactly what is there once the boat is built and all covered up.

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