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    Default new lagoon 450

    Lagoon Announces New LAGOON 450: http://www.lagoon450.com/network/index_fr.php
    about 22 hours ago via web

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    Default Re: new lagoon 450

    I'm a little confused, the video seems to show steering stations either left, right or on top.

    These all options or spliced in video of older models?

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    The live shots are other existing models. The animations are the new model. I heard about it recently, and they are hoping to have the first one ready for Annapolis in October, so dont expect any live pictures soon.

    I like what I see, hopefully they will have a little more bridge deck clearance, and some focus on better performance. Time will tell.
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    Default Re: new lagoon 560

    http://www.lagoon560.com/network/index_uk.php

    seems we still have to wait for more info..

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    from Catamaran Company website
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    Looks like a bigger version of the Lagoon 400 - not surprising really!!!
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    She does seem very heavy (25.5t claimed weight) for a 45ft boat. Lagoon seemed to have bumped up the sail area so it will be interesting to see how she performs.

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    After a search, it seems a little short on reviews for the 450. I know it's early, and only a few hulls have been produced, but I am very eager to see some real reviews on the 450. As I am very familiar with the 440 having chartered it 4 times, I would be particularly interested to know the differences ("improvements") between the 440 and the 450. Anyone?

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    Default Re: new lagoon 450

    new pictures on the web site

    http://www.lagoon450.com/1_galerie_uk.php

    looking good...
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    Main characteristics



    L.O.A.………………………………………13,96 m / 45’10”
    Max. beam…………………………..…7,84 m / 25’9’’
    Draft………………………………….....1,30 m / 4’3’’
    Light displacement (CE)……….15,5 t / 34178 Lbs
    Upwind sail area…………………….134 m² / 1071 sq ft
    Fresh water capacity…………….350 l / 92 US gal
    Fuel capacity…………………………1000 l / 264 US gal
    Engines………………………………….2 X 40 HP to 2 X55 HP Saildrive diesel
    Design……………………………………VPLP
    Interior design………………………Nauta Yachts

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    Waterline length..............................13,38m /43’89’’
    Beam.............................................7 ,84m /25’9"
    Mast Height Over Water....................23.05m /75’62"
    Draft............................................. .1,30m /4’28"
    Light displacement (CE).....................15500 Kg /34.178 lb
    Full displacement.............................21500 Kg /47.400 lb
    Full batten main..............................82.50m² /880 sq
    Square top main sail (option) ............85m² /915 sq ft
    Furling genoa .......................51.80m² /557 sq ft
    Spinnaker (option)................190m² /2.045 sq ft
    Gennaker (option).................105m² /1.130 sq ft
    Water.................................2 x 175l / 46 US gallons
    Fuel....................................2 x 500l / 132 US gallons
    Standard engine size..............2 x 40 hp
    Interior finish......Light alpi oak and non skid laminated wenge for the floor
    Architects .....................Marc Van Peteghem & Vincent Lauriot Prιvost
    CECertification.................A : 12 ; B : 14 ; C : 20 ; D : 30

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    Saw it at the Annapolis show! In a word: Fantastic. It had over 35 people onboard and the stern platforms were way out of the water, not underwater like so many cats. I didn't however like their use of blond wood laminates throughout the vessel. The cockpit is much larger now.
    and there is a lounge/suntan area forward of the flybridge.

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    I cannot get my head around the very high boom and the exposed helm station. Maybe in certain climates it would be stunning, but I would not want to try and get that mainsail down and packed away in a gale if something is going wrong. I reckon it would be very dangerous. In the right climate I am sure the sun beds and that area will be great. How is the view to the back of the boat from the helm if you dock stern to? The boat also seems very heavy for a 45ft boat with stated weight of 15 tons. The actual weight is often way higher than claimed by the manufacturer. I guess it is a very big 45 ft boat. What are owners experiences with lagoons, how does the claimed weight of your boats compare with the actual when you take it out of the water?

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    The fully loaded displacement is said to be over 45,000 lbs

    With that said i was really surprised by how well it sailed. It definitely did not accelerate quickly, but still we easily did 5.5 knots in 8.5 knots of true wind at 38 degrees apparent. Not shabby for such a heavy boat. We also had fixed props. It also steered much quicker than I would have thought.

    Visibility to all corners was great. The boom was too high without any way to climb up and deal with problems.
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    Default Re: new lagoon 450

    I suppose some people will love the design.

    But for me, the exposed rear of the cockpit, and the high steering position are not the design of a serious blue water boat.
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    I had a chance to sail on the Lagoon 450 right after the Annapolis boat show. Definitely agree with the positives about the flybridge. Once you have it, it is difficult for me to go back and look at the Leopards and others that only have a small raised control platform.

    As for the boom height, the reality is that it is quite unlikely you'll need to get up there on the passage. During our six months in the Bahamas, we only tacked a handful of times, and rarely needs to access the foot of the sail for maintenance. So in that case, it is safer to have the boom remain high.

    They made a few specific changes from the 440 - most important are the stairs going up to the flybridge from the aft cockpit, the ventilation hatch over the aft cockpit, and, I believe, added the forward lounging area adjacent to the mast.

    Anyway, we posted a bunch of pictures and our thoughts on our blog.

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    what is your blog address??

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    Default Re: new lagoon 450

    the new 450 will be at the biggest show in europa in january 2011 in Dusseldorf.

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    Default Re: new lagoon 450

    I looked at one at the Grand-Mott boat show and it is a HUGE cat (bulky and heavy) but then it is perfect for my needs. I think it will appeal to all of us that want a floating condo that we can move from one great location to another. Yes she can sail but the main buyers of the 450 are people looking for comfort and luxury at an affordable cost 1/3 less than the Privilidge when all said and done

    I really liked the 450 and it is in the top 3 for me Dean 5000 and Salena 48 are the 2 other options.

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