Wind over Tide Mooring

[multihullsailor6]

Some time back I entered Salcombe harbour in the UK single-handing my cat and with some difficulty I picked up a mooring in a fairly strong wind over strong incoming tide situation. Soon after attaching my bridle to the mooring buoy it was facing aftwards with the mooring buoy knocking on the inside of the hulls.

Increasing the water resistance by lowering my daggerboards had no effect, I ended up by first towing a bucket and then also a big folding plastic crate from the cockpit.

Has this happened to you and what was your solution?

[dmmbruce]

Yes, and the same solution. Need a bucket over the bow of the dinghy too if you have it astern.

Normal situation for any strong tidal mooring or anchorage. Applies all the way up western England, Wales and the Isle of Man for wind over tide.

Mike

[kim s]

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Normal situation for any strong tidal mooring or anchorage. Applies all the way up western England, Wales and the Isle of Man for wind over tide.

Mike[/quote]

Mike,

arnt we allowed any tide up the East coast and North Sea

I know its shallow and muddy, but hey we still get between 2-6 knotts depending on the river

Seriously, though, yep big bucket. or move into marina

Kim

[IreAneY]

[quote

Normal situation for any strong tidal mooring or anchorage. Applies all the way up western England, Wales and the Isle of Man for wind over tide.

Mike

Mike,

arnt we allowed any tide up the East coast and North Sea

I know its shallow and muddy, but hey we still get between 2-6 knotts depending on the river

Seriously, though, yep big bucket. or move into marina

Kim[/quote]

Kim
SDorry, East Coast and North sea are not counted, due to the colour of your water

[dmmbruce]

Kim s, I did not realise there were 6 knot tidal streams over your way. I have worked on the east coast but not sailed and I didn't remember big tides. West coast can get up to 9 or 10m (iirc) so places like Milford Haven or Conway can get very tiresome.

Don't worry about Ian's complaint about the water. It merely reflects his drinking habits.

Mike

[peter-lillywhite]

I have always just reduced the length of the bridle so that the buoy can't reach the hulls, am I missing something?

Peter.

[dmmbruce]

I have always just reduced the length of the bridle so that the buoy can't reach the hulls, am I missing something?

Peter.

I think that means that you would lose one of the supposed benefits of the bridle, ie that it adds a longish length of stretchy rope to the mooring, thus reducing snatch loads.

I find no need for a bridle.

Mike

[peter-lillywhite]

I think that means that you would lose one of the supposed benefits of the bridle, ie that it adds a longish length of stretchy rope to the mooring, thus reducing snatch loads.

I find no need for a bridle.

Mike

Never expeienced snatching in 20+ years of cat sailing, I guess the length of the bridle is close to 5m so enough stretch.

[Captain Bill]

I carry a large fishing drogue which I hang off the stern. The current wins every time at least up to about 25 knots of wind. I have not had an opportunity to test it in higher winds. I put it on a floating line and have a small float on the front to keep it from getting tangled on anything when the tide changes.

[kim s]

dmmbruce,

Oh yes, once in the main estuary then 3-4 knotts throught the sand banks round the thames on a spring tide is not uncommon.
in the entrances to some of the rivers like the Deban and Auld, then 6 knotts is quite common. and quite frightning. once in the grip your going out (or in) whether you want too or not.
normal range is about 5-6 metres. again varies an awful lot.

the problem with wind over tide here is, most of the good pubs are across 100 yards of sticky good old east coast mud, at low tide so we tend to go to a marina and a gentle stroll along the river bank. so we dont get the problem too often.

Irenay,
we do have a brewary called Crouch Vale on the river Crouch near Burnham on crouch.
And I think they do just pump it straight over the sea wall into a barrel. its foul. ------whats the disclaimer ----IMHO.
actually the river tastes better as its not so stagnent
and NO--just cos Im in es*** I dont drink lager, drive a ford capri and wear white socks------ok ill admit a did have a Capri once

Kim

[ColdFusion]

and NO--just cos Im in es*** I dont drink lager, drive a ford capri and wear white socks------ok ill admit a did have a Capri once

Kim

OK, I'll accept all that, but is your real name Tracy or Kevin?

[IreAneY]

Irenay,
we do have a brewary called Crouch Vale on the river Crouch near Burnham on crouch.
And I think they do just pump it straight over the sea wall into a barrel. its foul. ------whats the disclaimer ----IMHO.
actually the river tastes better as its not so stagnentKim

Kim
At least I hope your brewery uses drinking water to make it's beer in the first place.
On the tiny Trading Estate of 9 units in the middle of a nature reserve and about 5 feet below spring high tide level, where I have my little business, we also have a micro brewery, the main problem being is that on no account can we drink the water out of the taps as it comes out of a bore hole in the ground which shares the fields with the cows and other animals who just wee into the ground and it all soaks through into our water supply, back to the point he uses the water to make his beer