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    Spending a few weeks with my rellies over here in the United Kingdom. But for how much longer will it be united? The Scots will vote soon on becoming independent.

    Should Scotland secede, and withdraw from the Union?

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    So will no longer be called the United Kingdom?
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    England, Northern Ireland, Wales. Add to that three Crown dependencies and fourteen Overseas Territories. Fairly well united. Losing haggis and deep fried mars bars will be a blow, but hey life goes on. The locals over here in Oz and nearby NZ are not quick to acknowledge, but many are secretly proud that Lizzie II is still their queen.
    (time to duck for cover)
    ps. Voting in the UK is not compulsory, anything could happen.
    pps. If the rest of the UK was allowed to vote (and why not?) it would be all over.
    Last edited by tater; 8th September 2014 at 12:06 PM. Reason: ps.

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    Well presumably if Scotland votes to leave the Union then the uk flag must change. Which bit represents Scotland? I think it might be the blue.

    And what will Australia do with it's flag if the uk flag changes? We've still got the union flag in the corner of ours, still can't let go of granny's hand; but will Australia change it's flag to reflect any changes in the union flag?

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    Good question! I also wonder about their defence forces. There are British Navy and Airforce bases in Scotland. Will they get kicked out, or will the Scots allow (what remains of) the UK to lease them?

    Plenty of questions to be answered.

    I think they're about 40 years too late. Most of the North sea oil is gone now. If they'd become independent back then, they could have been pretty well off.

    Still it's their country, maybe....

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    The general consensus seems to be most of the Scots don't want to lose their British pensions at retirement and much of the benefits of being attached to the UK such as health care, etc.. I really think the vote will fail, however it will be used as a measuring stick to measure what support this movement may have within Scotland. When they did a program on TV asking Scots what they wanted, most of them kept coming back to health care, pensions, roads and essential services that Britain is supplying. So will be interesting to see the yays and the nays.
    L&N

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    They'll just do as they did in Gibraltar around the military bases. Bit of barbed wire and hire a few monkeys. Oil ran out because of them deep fried mars bars.

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    Well it appears that Westminster is flapping a bit, now that the polls indicate a Yes for independence vote, and is offering more goodies for Scotland if they choose to stay in the union.

    I don't s' pose David Cameron especially wants to go down in history as the PM who presided over the breakup of the uk.

    There's also the question of whether an independent Scotland can retain the Pound Sterling as their currency. They seem to think they can. But who would want to retain a currency over which you have no control? You'd still be subject to the fiscal policies of another country. Sounds a bit nuts to me.

    I hope they all kiss and make up, personally. You're better off being on the boat and trying to steer it, rather than jumping in the dinghy and trying to row yourself across them stormy seas.

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    What is interesting is that even if the vote is to remain in the UK there are major changes ahead.

    You cannot have Scotland deciding its own income tax etc and almost 50 coltish MPs voting on English, Welsh and NI matters -so we will have to have a regional assembly for England..... what does this leave the UK parliament to do? Its a major political shakeup.

    Next, if its a yes then with the loss of 41 left wing labour MPs we will usually have right wing governments for the UK. Scotland would have an exodus of wealth from Scotland as it will become a highly taxed socialist state. Because of that it would become a lot poorer over time.

    If it uses the pound then its economy will be controlled by a foreign country. Nor could it join the EU if it keeps the pound - the EU has made it clear that it must crake the failed Euro.

    In its typical selfish way it will want to join Nato but eject the Polaris subs from its country.....

    Truly a real mess no matter how it votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 44C View Post
    Good question! I also wonder about their defence forces. There are British Navy and Airforce bases in Scotland. Will they get kicked out, or will the Scots allow (what remains of) the UK to lease them?

    Plenty of questions to be answered.

    I think they're about 40 years too late. Most of the North sea oil is gone now. If they'd become independent back then, they could have been pretty well off.

    Still it's their country, maybe....
    Do you get a vote? There is still some scottish accent there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tater View Post
    England, Northern Ireland, Wales. Add to that three Crown dependencies and fourteen Overseas Territories. Fairly well united. Losing haggis and deep fried mars bars will be a blow, but hey life goes on. The locals over here in Oz and nearby NZ are not quick to acknowledge, but many are secretly proud that Lizzie II is still their queen.
    (time to duck for cover)
    ps. Voting in the UK is not compulsory, anything could happen.
    pps. If the rest of the UK was allowed to vote (and why not?) it would be all over.


    Thanks for the chuckle!

    ...and the same goes for the Gibraltar comments...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozmultis View Post
    Do you get a vote? There is still some scottish accent there!
    I don't even vote in Oz!

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    The no's won. Scotland is staying part of Britain.

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    But Scotland was always staying in Britain because that is the land mass and I can promise you there were no plans to cut itself off and set it adrift.
    Scorland is staying in the UK.
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    So the nays beat the yays. My Brummy wife was interested if it did happen, whether they were then going to call it the Former United Kindom or F.U.K.
    L&N

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    Yes, The Great British Break-Off was not to be.

    Now comes a political hullabaloo as english pollies cry foul on all the last-minute devolution goodies offered to scotland to persuade them to vote no; well what about an english parliament for england? Scottish pollies get to vote on issues pertaining to england, english pollies don't get to vote on scottish matters.

    Funny old world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouisAndNatasha View Post
    So the nays beat the yays. My Brummy wife was interested if it did happen, whether they were then going to call it the Former United Kindom or F.U.K.
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