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Thread: Hull Lifespan questions. - (Lagoon 380 - 2002)

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    Default Hull Lifespan questions. - (Lagoon 380 - 2002)

    Hello again.

    Having advanced further into this process, new major question comes up.

    Hull Age !.

    I'm looking at a Lagoon 380, 2002 model (owners edition) which looks to be in good condition. But concerned that I might be 'buying trouble' with the age of the Hull etc. so, questions.


    1. What is the realistic hull lifespan of one of these boats before you'd start getting concerned about its blue water capability / structural integrity.

    2. 2002. That's 13 years old. Is this still reasonable to expect another 5-10 years of life out of it, or am I looking for trouble ?

    3. What major things should I look for as issues in a Hull of this age to determine 'good vs bad'. (Or Insist are done as part of the survey to determine them).

    4. Anyone driving a Lagoon 380 of this vintage around that can comment ?


    Note:
    - I WILL be getting the boat surveyed, but even then, need to understand the report to see what is fixable, and what is 'run away and hide' damage/issues etc.

    - I'm not asking for opinion on a specific boat. More general "how to evaluate" it.

    - I'm sure some of the answer will be 'it depends' which is fine, on what does it depend is part of what I'm trying to assess.


    Caveat: I fully realize the older something is, the more maintenance there is. So I'm specifically focusing on Hull and other 'super expensive / impossible to replace' parts.
    I'm expecting for a boat of this age, i'll end up redoing all the rigging, and other replaceables.

    The consensus from reading seems to be, young the better, young hull good, old hull Bad. (simplistic, but you get the idea). But similar to my seaworthiness thread, where is the line ?


    Thanks in advance for your thoughts!.

    Regards

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    Default Re: Hull Lifespan questions. - (Lagoon 380 - 2002)

    The hull is not the point at which you should be worrying. Obviously check for integrity and signs of stress etc, particularly cracking around fittings, but honestly it should be fine.

    The likely area for ANY boat of that age is firstly rigging, standing rigging can last a long time but can fail without warning and it is hard to satisfy one self by inspection. At 13 years old, budget on replacing the standing rigging, wher I am on a Lagoon 380 it is probably a $6,000 job. Next area is plumbing, by then if it hasn't been maintained well many of the pumps and lines will be getting a bit marginal. And so on.

    But a production GRP hull should last for damn near ever.

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    Default Re: Hull Lifespan questions. - (Lagoon 380 - 2002)

    Thanks for the comments.

    Yes, I expect to replace the rigging, both standing and running, and probably the sails for a boat of this age. Thanks for the tip on the amount however, as I had no real idea yet.
    You say 'where you are" where is that ? I'll prob be looking at doing this in the Med (Turkey/Greece).


    I'm working on an assumption, that most interior and exterior fittings will be aged, and can be replaced / refitted. However there are some things like the Hull that MUST be in good order to consider the boat viable at all. Is this a reasonable assumption ?

    The one area we are planning a major 'refit' is the kitchen. (Rip out and replace with new, inc cabinetry).

    Regards

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    Default Re: Hull Lifespan questions. - (Lagoon 380 - 2002)

    May I approach this from a different perspective. I live in a area where I see a wide range of cats and tri's, many returning from extended cruising, returning for sale or to be refitted for their next project. I have seen a cat from a respected major builder that was in such a poor state due to its initial build quality that it had to undergo a major rebuild taking six months to enable it to be resold. Another cat from the same era and builder is sailed by a friend and used as a liveaboard long distance cruiser, it is in excellent condition. Age is a poor indicator of integrity and original build quality and subsequent maintenance much more important. The opinion of a specialist surveyor with a wide experience of multihulls is vital and in my opinion the advice of a multihull boatbuilder worth a lot, if only to put a handle on the cost, time involved and complexity of any work necessary.

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    Default Re: Hull Lifespan questions. - (Lagoon 380 - 2002)

    Quote Originally Posted by Catapault View Post
    Yes, I expect to replace the rigging, both standing and running, and probably the sails for a boat of this age. Thanks for the tip on the amount however, as I had no real idea yet.
    You say 'where you are" where is that ? I'll prob be looking at doing this in the Med (Turkey/Greece).
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