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    Question Expierence Lerouge Design (Freydis/Soubise)?

    Who can share expierence with Erik Lerouge designs, in special with the "Freydis 46/49" catamarans build by Tournier in Soubise (France)?

    We are going to buy a used one and it would be great to share some thoughts with sailors/owners! Thanks in advance for your commends!

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    Hi,

    I have been on a couple of Freydis, but have never sailed on one.

    One was a brand new 49 footer at the La Rochelle boat show 2 years ago that was highly customised.

    The other one was a 43 footer from the mid 90's.

    These are boats that should perform better than the average cat out there today given their narrow hulls and the designer.

    My impression is that there has not been alot of focus on bringing the boat weight down. They still have gelcoat, don't use epoxy as standard etc.

    The finish on the 2 boats I have seen was at best average, but adequate. Only point to look at very carefully would be the sealing around the saloon windows.

    Liferaft placement under the bridgedeck - might be difficult to get at in certain conditions, but that is easily fixed.

    Please post some pictures and your views when looking at these boats.

    They are very comparable to the Outremers IMO, (at least the ones when Gerard Danson was in charge).

    I would love to know more about these boats, and Eric Lerouge is a well respected designer.

    Alan

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    I do know someone with a Freydis, so will ask them if they would be willing to add some knowledge.
    Insanity is continuing to do the same thing and expecting different results

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    Hi jh14129,

    The Freydis is on my buy-list as well, yet still a while off unfortunately.

    The Freydis is a fast, very well sailing and very seaworthy cat, many of which have circumnavigated - in a test of a new Freydis 49 for the German magazin "Blauwasser" 03/08 the tester Ralf Weise (himself of cat-sale) commented that this was a cruising cat with the best light-wind performance (which persisted during his test) which he had ever sailed.

    They were originally built with a round cabin structure, which later changed to the square one. Which one are you looking at? Where are you based / looking?

    I haven't sailed on a Freydis, only looked over one once, though I have sailed the smaller sister Azuli for a two-week holiday. She was a delight to sail double-handed and gave us no problems at all.
    Roger

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    Hi everybody,

    More than a long discourt have a look on Lerouge web site:
    http://www.lerouge-yachts.com/cat_14.htm

    We have try one Freydis 46 in Denmark but not with so much wind.

    We are waiting for our new barramundi 460 from Erik lerouge and could say more in few mounth.

    sorry for my English.
    regards

    pierre

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    I suppose you know about these blogs , but just in case....

    Sail the Blue a US based Freydis doing the Atlantic/Med circle with a family of four.

    Another Freydis blog. French family on a world tour: "NAN FONG".

    And of course Snow Leopard a Freydis 46 and fastest cat in the last ARC.

    Thomas

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    Hi Alan!

    Thanks to your post. I have seen the 49 at La Rochelle as well and also been during construction at shipyard.

    As we are looking for a good sailing performance boat to stay on comfortable during long term I believe it is one of the best options you can have. As we will invest a lot of money I want to makre sure not "being on the wrong way".

    We will come back with pictures / information after having finalized buying process.

    Regards Jan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talbot View Post
    I do know someone with a Freydis, so will ask them if they would be willing to add some knowledge.
    Will be great to get feedback from someone who really has sailing expierence on this boat. Thanks in advance!

    Jan

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    Quote Originally Posted by multihullsailor6 View Post
    Hi jh14129,

    The Freydis is on my buy-list as well, yet still a while off unfortunately.

    The Freydis is a fast, very well sailing and very seaworthy cat, many of which have circumnavigated - in a test of a new Freydis 49 for the German magazin "Blauwasser" 03/08 the tester Ralf Weise (himself of cat-sale) commented that this was a cruising cat with the best light-wind performance (which persisted during his test) which he had ever sailed.

    They were originally built with a round cabin structure, which later changed to the square one. Which one are you looking at? Where are you based / looking?

    I haven't sailed on a Freydis, only looked over one once, though I have sailed the smaller sister Azuli for a two-week holiday. She was a delight to sail double-handed and gave us no problems at all.
    Yes, I have read this report in Blauwasser and I know cat-sale team and sharing my ideas with them.

    I'm looking for the square one as this gives convient space in cabin to live on during long term trip. We are based in northern Europe (baltic + north sea) but expect to sail all over the world.

    Regards Jan

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    Quote Originally Posted by taifun View Post
    I suppose you know about these blogs , but just in case....

    Sail the Blue a US based Freydis doing the Atlantic/Med circle with a family of four.

    Another Freydis blog. French family on a world tour: "NAN FONG".

    And of course Snow Leopard a Freydis 46 and fastest cat in the last ARC.

    Thomas
    Thomas, I know about. Unfortunately I do not get access to website of "Snow Leopard". There is only the geografical log shown in the map. Do you have any other website address about this boat?

    Regards Jan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
    Hi everybody,

    More than a long discourt have a look on Lerouge web site:
    http://www.lerouge-yachts.com/cat_14.htm

    We have try one Freydis 46 in Denmark but not with so much wind.

    We are waiting for our new barramundi 460 from Erik lerouge and could say more in few mounth.

    sorry for my English.
    regards

    pierre
    Hello Pierre,

    Congratulations on your soon-to-be catamaran, a great looking boat!

    I see from Eric Lerouge's website that the Barramundi range of catamarans are an evolution of the Brazapi cats. I also note that Barramundi Boats are a yard based in Sri Lanka, I take it these are the builders of your cat. Could you please inform us about this yard (their website does not give much background info) and about the quality of their boats. Is the build being monitored by Eric Lerouge or Alain Veyron? How do their prices compare to a Freydis from Tournier Marine?

    Thanks and regards
    Roger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
    Hi everybody,

    More than a long discourt have a look on Lerouge web site:
    http://www.lerouge-yachts.com/cat_14.htm

    We have try one Freydis 46 in Denmark but not with so much wind.

    We are waiting for our new barramundi 460 from Erik lerouge and could say more in few mounth.

    sorry for my English.
    regards

    pierre
    Hi Pierre!

    I checked on the barramundi 460. Really a great looking boat!

    Which shipyard is bulding for you and where are they located? Can your share with me some idea about expected pricing comparing to Tournier/Soubise?

    Regards Jan

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    Hi,

    In reply to your questions:
    Barramundi compagny is based to Sri Lanka. He's owner (Frank Hillen) has 90% and the other 10% are B.A.F.F.(Building the future fondation)
    an association to help young people in Sri Lanka.
    Our Barramundi 460 is a new cat and built with new molds.
    Our cat will be the third.
    I can't write here she will be the msut beautiful But I think yes.

    Concerning something important especially at this time:
    Price:

    I can't compare with Tournier marine. We only buy the cat with engines and we have to finish the cat by ourself or by a specialists.
    But it is possible to finish the boat in Sri Lanka with Barramundi too.

    the final price depend of witch material you use.

    For exemple:
    for a rotating mast is in carbon with Kevlar shrouds
    arround 55 000 euros (no v.a.t.)
    for "normal" aluminium mast
    arrond 18 000 euros

    You understand now why it is difficult to compare...

    sorry for my English

    regards

    Pierre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
    Hi,

    In reply to your questions:
    Barramundi compagny is based to Sri Lanka. He's owner (Frank Hillen) has 90% and the other 10% are B.A.F.F.(Building the future fondation)
    an association to help young people in Sri Lanka.
    Our Barramundi 460 is a new cat and built with new molds.
    Our cat will be the third.
    I can't write here she will be the msut beautiful But I think yes.

    Concerning something important especially at this time:
    Price:

    I can't compare with Tournier marine. We only buy the cat with engines and we have to finish the cat by ourself or by a specialists.
    But it is possible to finish the boat in Sri Lanka with Barramundi too.

    the final price depend of witch material you use.

    For exemple:
    for a rotating mast is in carbon with Kevlar shrouds
    arround 55 000 euros (no v.a.t.)
    for "normal" aluminium mast
    arrond 18 000 euros

    You understand now why it is difficult to compare...

    sorry for my English

    regards


    Pierre
    Thanks Pierre!

    Please show some pictures about progress in your boat during construction and first sailing expierence!

    I will contact Barramundi shipyard directly. As to your information I've found their website.

    Good luck und best regards Jan

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    Hi

    Here some pictures from the Freydis 50 (GIFI)

    http://picasaweb.google.fr/atacapoum...Oe0qOL8uMysQA#

    regards

    pierre

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    Default Re: Expierence Lerouge Design (Freydis/Soubise)?

    Thanks for the link to the Gifi photos Pierre. This was my dream boat a few years ago!

    Is she still called Gifi? She was for sale a couple of years ago, for around 700.000,- as far as I remember.

    This is an extended Freydis 46 , and came in second I think in the race from France to Canada (I think). This was a singlehanded race. Is this correct?

    Alan

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    Default Re: Expierence Lerouge Design (Freydis/Soubise)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
    Hi

    Here some pictures from the Freydis 50 (GIFI)

    http://picasaweb.google.fr/atacapoum...Oe0qOL8uMysQA#

    regards

    pierre
    Hi Pierre!

    Gifi is on sale: http://www.multihulls-world.com/us/c...ale,10004.html

    But as we are looking for more cruising comfort, I prefer the regular one with it's mini keels and some interieur. It's a compromise to expect getting older and my wife.

    Regards Jan

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    Hi,

    If you want more confortable there is this one

    http://www.multihulls-world.com/fr/c...ndre,9828.html

    Now I thinkl it is a 50'.

    regards

    pierre

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    Dear all!

    We dicided to buy and signed contract buying a used one build in 2001.

    cat-klein.jpg

    We feel happy and are looking forward to have good cruising with our new boat.

    Thanks to all who gave us recommendation and shared expierence!

    Kind regards

    Jan

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    Congratulations, Jan, on your cat. What will she be called?
    Wishing you many miles of enjoyable sailing
    Roger

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